Joseph Ducksworth

Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, graduate of the WebMBA program at Georgia College

How do you juggle your own medical practice while attempting to further your business career by getting an MBA? Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, an acclaimed oral surgeon, did just that. This week he talks with guest host Jon Waterhouse about why it’s important for physicians who run their own practice to have an MBA, the pros and cons of getting an online MBA, and much more.

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Announcer: 00:02
It’s time for Lenz on Business with Richard Lenz, on News 95.5, and AM 750. WSB, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. Exploring Atlanta’s business leaders, inspiring stories, lessons learned and tips for growth and success.

Jon Waterhouse: 00:26
Yes, it’s time to settle in for an hour of business talk here on WSB.

Welcome to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business.

I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse, filling in for Richard Lenz.

Now, as you know, many business professionals contemplate going back to school and acquiring an MBA, taking things to the next level.

Well, our special guest this week is an acclaimed oral surgeon who operates his own practice, and he decided to do just that. Here to tell us about how he juggled his profession with graduate school, the pros and cons of getting an online MBA, and much more, is Dr. Joseph Ducksworth.

He’s a private practice oral and maxillofacial surgeon at The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center in South Forsyth.

Dr. Ducksworth’s specialties include dental implants, wisdom teeth removal, bone grafting, oral pathology, facial trauma, and more. And in 2018, he graduated from the Georgia College WebMBA program. Dr. Ducksworth, welcome to the show.

Dr. Ducksworth: 01:41
Thank you, Jon for that, a warm introduction. I certainly appreciate you inviting me out today, and I look forward to this interview.

Jon Waterhouse: 01:49
Absolutely. So, tell us a little bit about your day-to-day as an oral surgeon. What goes into your everyday lifestyle in your profession?

Dr. Ducksworth: 01:58
Being an oral and maxillofacial surgeon, our daily lifestyle, or daily routine, involves a wisdom teeth extractions. Most people know an oral surgeon is the person that performs wisdom teeth extractions under sedation, or by the patient going to sleep.

But we also do additional things, such as dental implants. As you mentioned, we do bone grafting. We’re also the doctors that are responsible for diagnosing and treating different types of cysts, tumors, cancer, and a multitude of other things that are involved in the oral cavity, as well as the maxillofacial region.

Jon Waterhouse: 02:37
So, in addition to doing all of this, all this surgery, all these different aspects of your job, you run the practice.

Dr. Ducksworth: 02:43
Yes, I do run to practice. It is a private practice, oral and maxillofacial surgery practice, as you mentioned. I do run the practice. I have a practice manager there, that assists in running the practice, but yes, I am primarily responsible for running the practice.

Jon Waterhouse: 02:57
What made you want to go back and get MBA?

Dr. Ducksworth: 02:59
Well, I’ve always been interested in having my own business, hence having an oral and maxillofacial surgery practice.

I also have an interest in some different entrepreneurship ventures that I plan to do in the future. And I look forward to the MBA helping me with those future endeavors, but also helping me have a different outlook on the current practice that I run, and the business activities that go on from day to day.

Jon Waterhouse: 03:28
So let’s talk about that outlook, and how it’s changed since you received your WebMBA from Georgia College.

Dr. Ducksworth: 03:34
Since obtaining the WebMBA from Georgia College, I’ve been able to have a different conversation with my accountant, a different conversation with my IT person, my marketing coordinator, on a daily basis, as well as the office manager and the staff at The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center.

Jon Waterhouse: 03:54
So let’s talk about the program itself, and your experiences there. What are some of the biggest business lessons you’ve learned since getting your MBA?

Dr. Ducksworth: 04:03
So I would have to say the biggest business lesson that I learned is the ability to be able to evaluate and analyze situations differently. Coming from a math and science background, as most healthcare professionals do, we’re taught to look at situations pretty much as in black and white, as either right or wrong.

But after obtaining the MBA, it allows me to explore some of those gray areas that are necessary to run a successful business, and to also explore different business ventures in the future.

Jon Waterhouse: 04:38
Folks, if you’re just tuning into Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business, we’re talking with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, who is a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program. So, Dr. Ducksworth, why did you choose Georgia College’s WebMBA?

Dr. Ducksworth: 04:58
I chose the Georgia College WebMBA program due to the flexibility that the program offered. The program is fully accredited. It has a great review. It is constantly ranked amongst the top programs, not only in Georgia, but also in the US, year after year.

For example, the program is one of the best online programs, and counting five years in a row. This is one of the 12 best business schools ranked by CEO Magazine. And also, it’s one of the 10 online programs in the South, as well as the top 25 public online MBA programs, nationally.

Jon Waterhouse: 05:37
And from what I’ve heard, Georgia College’s WebMBA is also known for its affordability. Did that play a part in your decision?

Dr. Ducksworth: 05:44
Why, certainly, yes. The Georgia College WebMBA program, the affordability … to be able to obtain an MBA program for approximately $20,000 is certainly favorable, as far as looking at any program, especially as an accredited program that it is.

Jon Waterhouse: 06:01
And also, GRE waivers are offered for Georgia College’s WebMBA. Did you opt for one?

Dr. Ducksworth: 06:06
Ah, yes. Having an advanced degree, they do give you the option to waiver the GRE, or the GMAT. In my particular case, having an advanced degree already, was an option that I did take.

Jon Waterhouse: 06:20
Folks, if you’re just tuning in, you’re listening to Lenz on Business here on WSB, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business.

I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse, and this week we’re chatting with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program.

He’s talking about what it was like to go back to school in the midst of his career. Now, Dr. Ducksworth, what are the pros and cons of an online degree?

Dr. Ducksworth: 06:48
So, the pros and cons. First I’ll start with the pros. The pros of obtaining an online degree is the flexibility that the program offers. The tuition, that we discussed previously, was definitely one of the pros of obtaining an online degree through Georgia College and the WebMBA program.

The cons, that I will say, are are minimal, but I will say that it requires self-discipline. If you’re not an individual that has self-discipline and time management, that will become a con for you. It can be an isolating experience if you’re not willing to be actively involved in your team, as well as the projects that are presented throughout the course.

Jon Waterhouse: 07:35
You were talking about the discipline of studying and participating in a WebMBA, and here you are running a practice. Not only running a practice, but also a professional surgeon, an oral surgeon. You’re out there working day to day. How did you juggle that time? How did you make time for the WebMBA?

Dr. Ducksworth: 07:54
For me, what I did, I looked at things that I could adjust, things that I could not necessarily cut out of my daily routine. And what I mean by things that, it just means social activities.

For example, I knew I couldn’t cut out my work schedule, my after-work schedule, my lifestyle with my family. I know certain things could not be cut out, but there are certain social things that could be modified.

For example, if you’re a person that likes to play golf on Sunday afternoons, you might have to modify your golf schedule for the program. That’s how I was able to adjust. I would say to anyone who’s looking to explore the opportunity of doing a WebMBA program, you look at your life, you make a calendar of your work schedule, you make a calendar of your after-work schedule, your lifestyle, and then you look at things that you can adjust accordingly. And that’s going to help out a lot with your time management strategy as far as the obtaining a WebMBA.

Jon Waterhouse: 08:52
And what was your study strategy like, Dr. Ducksworth? After a long day at work, did you come home and study? Did you get up early in the morning and do your coursework?

Dr. Ducksworth: 09:01
Very good. So, it varied. It varied according to what was going on at the time, not only at work but after work.

For me, what worked best for me was to study after work, approximately one to two hours per day. I averaged probably 10 to 12 hours per week, I would say. Some weeks that would vary. It might be five hours this week, maybe 20 hours next week. But what worked best for me was to stay ahead, to help me stay ahead, was to study daily, a little bit after work, after the kids and everybody’s gone to bed, things like that. So, that’s what helped me best.

And also, studying on Saturday mornings before it was time for the kids’ activities, and things of that nature.

Jon Waterhouse: 09:45
And I would imagine the consistency of studying every day helped keep you on your toes as you were continuing your classwork.

Dr. Ducksworth: 09:53
Certainly. Certainly, the consistency of studying everyday helps you stay ahead in your studies, and it also keeps you abreast of the things that you’re going to be reviewing with your group when you meet with the group. It’s also going to help you be prepared for the exams better. And also, the end of the year capstone that many of us are aware of.

Jon Waterhouse: 10:15
Folks. You’re listening to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse, filling in for Richard Lenz. And this week we’re chatting with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program.

He’s telling us all about that experience, and what it was like, in the midst of his career, going back to school to attain that WebMBA.

And we’re going to learn more about it just after the break. Don’t go anyplace.

Richard Lenz: 10:45
Hi, this is Richard Lenz and you’re listening to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. Visit them at gcsu.edu/business. Again, that’s gcsu.edu/business.

Jon Waterhouse: 11:17
We’re back some more on this week’s Lenz on Business, I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse.

Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business offers top-ranked online graduate business programs including MBA, Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management, and Master of Management Information Systems. Learn more at gcsu.edu/business.

And this week on Lenz on Business, we’re talking with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth. He’s a private practice oral and maxillofacial surgeon at The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center in South Forsyth. And Dr. Ducksworth’s specialties include dental implants, wisdom teeth removal, bone grafting, oral pathology, facial trauma, and more.

But in addition to all of that, he runs his own practice. In 2018, he graduated from the Georgia College WebMBA program to add to his business savvy. And Dr. Ducksworth, we were talking earlier about the whole WebMBA experience at Georgia College. Did you have a specific favorite class that really spoke to you?

Dr. Ducksworth: 12:28
Yeah, the class that really spoke to me was the entrepreneurship class, as well as the marketing class, because those things really hit home for me about what goes on in my daily practice, and some of the future business ventures that I plan to pursue.

So those two classes, for me, were the favorite classes, if you were to pick favorites. But the program entirely as a whole, putting everything together, certainly was instrumental in changing my way of thinking and analyzing situations.

Jon Waterhouse: 12:58
Absolutely. And you were talking earlier, before the break, that in addition to day-to-day as an oral surgeon running your own practice, you also have that entrepreneurial spirit. You have a few other business ideas that you have on the table. Anything that you can talk about today?

Dr. Ducksworth: 13:15
Well, for example, the entrepreneurship class that I just talked about, what we were able to do was to write a business plan for my second practice, and additional practices moving forward. So that is one arm of the entrepreneurship thing that I’m exploring.

As a matter of fact, the business plan that we wrote, my team wrote, is going to be used this year to open the second practice, under The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center umbrella.

So that was a huge thing for me, because now, the things that I would typically have paid for in the past, we were able to do those things in the program. Through this class, we were able to write the business plan, formulate it, have it evaluated by the instructor, have different eyes on it. So that was the huge thing right there for me.

Jon Waterhouse: 14:03
That’s incredible. I mean, practicality right there.

Dr. Ducksworth: 14:05
Right, exactly. And that is one of the great things I will say about the program, is that having a diverse group of team members, each one of us, at some point throughout this program, were able to say, “Hey, that applies to me. We just had that situation at work,” or, “This situation is coming up at work.” That’s the great thing about the program. You can take the … the program takes real-life situations, and you’re able to implement what you learned into that.

Jon Waterhouse: 14:34
And I want to talk a little bit later about the group involvement, and that collaboration at Georgia College’s WebMBA program, which we’ll save that for for just a few moments.

But folks, if you’re just tuning into the program, we’re chatting with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, who’s a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program.

Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse.

Stick around, we have more to explore in this week’s episode, all about going back to school and grabbing an MBA, more specifically, Georgia College’s WebMBA Lenz on Business, WSB. We’ll see you in just a few moments.

Richard Lenz: 15:22
Hi, this is Richard Lenz, and you’re listening to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. Visit them at gcsu.edu/business. Again, that’s gcsu.edu/business.

Jon Waterhouse: 15:50
Welcome back to Lenz on Business here on WSB. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse. Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business offers top-ranked online graduate business programs including MBA, Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management, and Master of Management Information Systems. Learn more at gcsu.edu/business.

And this week we’re talking with someone who knows all about the Georgia College WebMBA. This is Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, here in the studio with us. He’s a private practice oral surgeon at The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center in South Forsyth.

And in 2018, he graduated from the Georgia College WebMBA program. Now, Dr. Ducksworth, we were talking earlier about the collaboration that you had with other students during the Georgia College WebMBA program.

Now, on the outside, some people might think that you might be on an island when you’re participating in an online program. Can you tell us a little bit more about the cohort and group-based aspects of the program?

Dr. Ducksworth: 16:59
Yes. So, the Georgia WebMBA program is designed to be a all-online program. It’s interactive with your group or your team members throughout the five-term course of the program.

So, what happens is, you interact with your team members on a weekly basis. It is entirely up to the team how often you meet, or how often you interact. Like some semester, we may meet once a week, and some semesters, just depending on the coursework or what’s required, we might meet twice a week. It just all depends.

But the collaboration that you will form with your team members is instrumental in moving you and yourself forward. There is one face-to-face meeting that you will have, and that is at the orientation. That’s when you meet your team members. That is the only required face-to-face meeting that you will have.

But at that meeting, you will be able to meet the team members, find out each other’s backgrounds, find out what each other’s strengths and weaknesses are, which will be helpful as you move forward through the program.

The collaboration that you have, it can be a face-to-face, online, face-to-face meeting. It can be a conference call, however you and your team decide to set it up.

I will say that the collaboration is very instrumental, and knowing who is strong in which areas, who likes certain activities, or who likes certain tasks, because as you move forward through the program, that will be instrumental for you as well as the team in moving forward.

Jon Waterhouse: 18:36
Now, Dr. Ducksworth, you were talking earlier about one of the projects that you were working on as you were undergoing your WebMBA through Georgia College, and that was an entrepreneurial class and you were putting together a business plan, and you were collaborating with your fellow students. Did you see the diversity of backgrounds? Did that benefit that particular project?

Dr. Ducksworth: 19:02
Of course. The diverse backgrounds, because as I mentioned earlier, as one that’s coming from a math and science background, you have a tendency to look at things in black and white, and we know how we’ve honed our craft over the years. When we go to medical school, dental school, we’re taught how to hone in on your craft, but the business side is all the things that we don’t get.

So having a cohort, or a cohort as well as a team of students that had diverse backgrounds, they were able to implement and have questions about things that maybe I would not have thought about in writing the business plan on my own, initially.

Jon Waterhouse: 19:39
Folks, you’re listening to Lenz on business presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse, and this week we’re chatting with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program.

Now, in addition to collaborating with other students, you also had the opportunity to receive support from the Georgia College WebMBA staff. Can you talk about the support they provided along the way? And what sort of access you had to folks in that capacity?

Dr. Ducksworth: 20:11
So the staff at Georgia College is excellent, in my opinion. From the beginning, from my initial inquiry about obtaining the WebMBA, Ms. Hansen and Ms. Moseley were great. Throughout the program, they were always accessible. As far as if I had an inquiry or about any situation that came up, they were always on top of it.

Most responses are instant. If not instant, certainly with within a 24-hour time period they’re going to get solutions to your inquiry, if there is any.

But as far as the staff goes, the staff was excellent, in my opinion.

Jon Waterhouse: 20:48
And so you participated in the classes in your own time? How does that work?

Dr. Ducksworth: 20:53
Great. So, yes. You will participate in the classes on your own, but you will also participate in the classes as part of your group. There will be individual projects that you will pursue and have to complete, and there will be group projects that you will have to pursue and complete as well.

Jon Waterhouse: 21:09
You’re listening to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse, and this week on the program, we’ve been talking with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth. He’s a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program, and managed to obtain that degree while working full-time as an oral surgeon, and managing his own practice in South Forsyth.

His practice is The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center.

Now, Dr. Ducksworth, let’s talk a little bit about physicians who run their own practices. Would you suggest that all physicians who run their own practices go back and get an MBA to help enhance their business?

Dr. Ducksworth: 21:50
I certainly would suggest it to all physicians who have their own practice. Being that, when we’re in medical school, we’re in dental school, or professional school, we do not get the business side of running a practice. We get the input of how to hone in on your craft, how to perform your procedures at the top level.

But the business side, we do not get that. We probably get probably one business class, on average, amongst different schools, about running your own business, but nothing like what is offered through the WebMBA.

So, in that regards I would certainly suggest it. You cannot go wrong with it. It certainly changes your way of analyzing and evaluating situations on a daily basis as far as running your business.

Jon Waterhouse: 22:39
And, as far as that day-to-day of running your business, since graduation, can you give us some other ways, some of the practical ways that you’ve used your WebMBA training since graduation?

Dr. Ducksworth: 22:51
Some other practical ways that I’ve used my WebMBA in my daily practice. As I mentioned earlier, my marketing, for example. I have a different outlook as far as my marketing goals, and I can have a different conversation with my marketing coordinator about different things that I maybe would not have thought about if I would not have obtained a MBA.

As far as my accounting goes, the accounting, I … things that I understood before, I just have a further understanding, and a more in-depth knowledge about those things right now, as well.

Jon Waterhouse: 23:25
And I’m sure you have a greater appreciation for folks who do those jobs on a daily basis.

Dr. Ducksworth: 23:30
Of course, of course. Definitely. Even thinking about my IT person, thing is, before, I would just say, “I just want it to work.” Now I understand a little bit more about what I want to work, instead of just, “I want it to work.”

So, yes, I do have a further appreciation and understanding for those people that do it on a daily basis.

Jon Waterhouse: 23:49
And I imagine, having a better understanding of what other people are doing within your practice also would help you manage the practice better, logistically. Just understanding the timeframes, and how long it would take someone to undertake a specific project.

Dr. Ducksworth: 24:04
Yes, definitely. The WebMBA provides you the opportunity to learn and become more aware of things that are essential in running a business, things that are essential, and the logistics, as you mentioned of a daily … No matter if it’s a small practice, or a small business such as mine, or a corporation, being that the lifelike examples that we are exposed to in the program, we are exposed to examples of small businesses as well as running a large Corporation. That is a great thing about the WebMBA.

Jon Waterhouse: 24:37
Now you were talking about approaching things from the viewpoint of a physician. Do you feel like being a physician lends itself to adapting to the business mindset? Or is that something that you had to really work hard towards?

Dr. Ducksworth: 24:52
I think it depends on your mindset. I think that most physicians, when we first come out of our training, it probably is a little bit harder for us to adapt because we’ve been trained to think black or white. It’s either right or wrong. Either the procedure’s completed, or it’s not. You’re doing right or wrong.

And so I think, as you become a little more seasoned in your business, the mindset does open up, and you start to look at, hey, is there a different way that I maybe should be looking at business, versus the surgical procedures or the medical procedures that I’m performing on a daily basis? So, certainly, I think that an instrumental.

Jon Waterhouse: 25:31
You’re listening to Lenz on Business presented by Georgia College’s. J Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse.

This week, we’re talking with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth, a graduate of the Georgia College WebMBA program.

Now, Dr. Ducksworth, since obtaining your WebMBA, has this changed the way that you approach your day-to-day?

Dr. Ducksworth: 25:53
I would say so. From, for example, running the practice on a daily, day-to-day basis, I think differently in the aspect of it’s a business and surgery versus previously, I just thought surgery, and let everyone else deal with business. You have your office manager, have you marketing person.

But now I see it as a business and surgical practice versus a surgical practice, that’s what I always would say, “It’s a surgical practice.” So now I see it as being a business-minded practice as well.

Jon Waterhouse: 26:25
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Richard Lenz: 27:02
Hi, this is Richard Lenz, and you’re listening to Lenz on Business, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. Visit them at gcsu.edu/business. Again, that’s gcsu.edu/business.

Jon Waterhouse: 27:33
You’re locked into Lenz on Business here on WSB, presented by Georgia College’s J. Whitney Bunting College of Business. I’m guest host, Jon Waterhouse.

And this week, we’ve been talking with Dr. Joseph Ducksworth. He’s a private practice oral surgeon at The Oral, Facial and Implant Surgery Center in South Forsyth, and in 2018, he graduated from the Georgia College WebMBA program, something he’s using to enhance his business.

Now Dr. Ducksworth, let’s talk a little bit about any advice you might give to someone who is interested in going back to school, specifically obtaining the Georgia College WebMBA. You talked a little bit about it earlier. If you can expand on that, that would be great.

Dr. Ducksworth: 28:19
For someone that’s considering going back to school, and have a busy lifestyle, a busy work schedule, I would say, look at your schedule and determine a time management system that’s going to work for you.

For example, you would have to look at just, make out a schedule, look at the things that you could and could not rearrange in your daily lifestyle, or in your daily schedule. There are things that will come up throughout the course of the program that you will not be able to adjust, but you will find yourself adjusting. I don’t know if that makes sense, but what I’m saying is, you will have to … things will come up throughout the program that you will say, “I have to … I can’t adjust work, but I need to adjust something else in my daily routine, or my daily schedule, daily life that’s going on.”

Jon Waterhouse: 29:15
Right. Life happens.

Dr. Ducksworth: 29:16
Life happens. There we go. Yeah, life happens.

For example, someone in your group might be a pregnant, they might be going to having the baby. Those things, those type of life things happen. When that person has to go out for maternity leave, those kinds of things are part of that life happenings.

So you have to … reason why I’m saying that time management becomes so important, because you need to have something where you can stay ahead. So, when that life event happens, you will be already ahead. The instructors are usually pretty understanding with those things, and if you’re already ahead, they’re okay with opening up exams. They’re okay with opening up coursework and things like that, if you are ahead. So that’s why that time management becomes so important for you.

If you’re a person that’s isolated and staying alone, and then life happens, it becomes more of a difficult situation to adjust accordingly.

Jon Waterhouse: 30:10
Now, I understand you’re married, you’re a parent, and life certainly happens in fatherhood. Can you talk a little bit about how you juggled the parental lifestyle with your Georgia College WebMBA Studies?

Dr. Ducksworth: 30:22
Right. Well, so, what I think is the best thing for someone who is married and has kids, is to get everyone onboard, or get everyone involved with what you’re doing.

For example, I have a 16-year-old son who plays travel basketball. I have a 13-year-old boy and girl twins. One of them plays travel soccer, the other one does competitive gymnastics. What I’m saying is, we all supported each other, and they knew that I was doing my WebMBA program, and so they were just as much a part of it as I was.

They were looking forward to my graduation, they were looking forward to seeing me complete the program. I would say, just get everyone involved and on the same page.

Jon Waterhouse: 31:02
Well, Dr. Ducksworth, thank you so much for joining us today and talking all about the Georgia College WebMBA program.

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Richard Lenz: 31:56
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